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Health Insurance: The Dead End

Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:09 PM EDT
health, obama, health-care, government, health-insurance, big-business, rationing, blue-cross-blue-shield
By VisionCoast

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This is a letter to all of the Newsviners who defend health insurance companies. I hope that each one who reads my story will make an attempt to put themselves in the shoes of others who are in the predicament I am facing.

I’ve been a member of Blue Cross and Blue Shield for 10 years. For the first three years I was in a group policy through my employer. When I left that job to open a publishing company, I took the Cobra policy, paying the full premium of $272 a month. Seven months later, in July 2003, I was diagnosed with large B cell non-Hodgkins lymphoma, and somehow I survived.

Each year, my premium went up by huge amounts. I kept paying, and I kept working 12- and 14-hour days, coping with the cognitive impairment that often comes with chemotherapy. My doctors did an excellent job of saving my life. I only wish I could say that Blue Cross and Blue Shield cared whether I lived or died. Today, I was forced to face the reality that Blue Cross and Blue Shield would have far preferred that I had died, and that if I have the audacity to stay alive, well, by God, they're going to get all that money back.

Through the years following my successful cancer treatment, I went through two years of urology tests and appointments, dealing with the bladder problems that followed in the wake of my chemotherapy. I dealt with two years of dermatologist appointments and failed treatment for Wells Syndrome, a torturous, allergic result of my chemotherapy. I dealt with two years of abnormal lab tests, outpatient surgery and biopsies, hoping that all I had beaten would not revisit me in yet another type of medical condition. While my health insurance allowed me to survive the financial costs of my immediate health crisis, it didn't care one whit if I would survive the financial legacy it would create. Or so I thought.

Throughout those years, I faithfully paid my health insurance premium. Each year it increased by extraordinary amounts. By June 2009, my premium had gone up 267.5 percent in nine years, when it reached $1,000 a month. I called Blue Cross and Blue Shield, as I had done the year before and the year before that, asking if there was a more affordable policy. The answer was always the same. “You will have to qualify with an underwriter…and, no, we have no other policy to sell you with reduced coverage.” They know my cancer history. They know I can't qualify anywhere for any policy and that if I drop the one I have, I'm uninsured—and uninsurable.

I contacted the state insurance commissioner’s office. The gentleman there did an extensive review of my case only to tell me that Blue Cross and Blue Shield did an excellent job of documenting their expenses and that, no, I had no recourse. The man went on to tell me that the only reason he worked for the state health insurance commissioner’s office was to provide health insurance for his wife and himself. He told me that his salary paid for little more than those bills. He fully comprehended my situation, mailed me pages and pages of his research into my case, and he gave me his heartfelt consolation about my predicament. He was helpless to assist in any way.

Each year at this time of the year, I hold my breath waiting to receive the letter from Blue Cross and Blue Shield that tells me what my new monthly premium will be. This year, in a letter dated May 2, I was told my premium was $1,032 a month. I was thrilled. Only a $32 increase! Somehow, I would hang on. Somehow, I would keep paying this insurance premium and my family would have peace of mind.

Today I got a second letter from Blue Cross and Blue Shield. This one told me that my annual premium was increasing to $1,113 a month and, if I wanted to talk with someone about it, call this 800 number. So I did.

After waiting on hold for 15 minutes, a representative came on the line. I explained the two letters, less than a month apart, telling me of the two increases. She had no clue why I got the two letters and sent my call to the membership and billing department. The woman there told me the first letter was probably a mistake and that the “system” was showing a premium of $1,113 for my gender, age and place of residence. “Funny,” I said, “those are the same parameters that the first letter refers to, the one with the $1,032 premium.” So this premium had nothing to do with my illness, I asked? I was transferred to a supervisor and waited on hold some more.

Poor Ms. Kilcrease. After being on hold by now for almost a half-hour and listening to one dodge after another, I laid out the facts for her. I got the same response. The first letter must’ve been a mistake, and the higher premium was the one in the system for someone of my age, gender and place of residence. My premium apparently had nothing whatsoever to do with my medical history. So I asked, “This is your mistake and I’m going to have to pay for it?” Repeat of the first response with no clear answer. At that point, I finally let it rip. I told her I understand that she’s an American who needs a job…but how do you do this to people? Why do you work for a company like this?

Ms. Kilcrease kept telling me that Blue Cross and Blue Shield is trying to work on this "problem." I asked her how. She didn’t know. She told me that I would have to be underwritten to get another policy. She told me that another company would have to look at my entire medical history before they would decide if they were going to offer to sell me a policy. All of my personal information? All of the details of my medical history? Not one shred of it is private? Did they want a hair and blood sample to go with that personal information? Why, yes, as a matter of fact, a blood sample and EKG would be required in addition to all of my medical records.

Then Ms. Kilcrease told me that her premium, too, was very high. I asked Ms. Kilcrease what it cost her each month. She said it was taken directly out of her paycheck and that she didn’t really pay any attention to it. My response was that if she could receive a paycheck and not be shocked by the premium deduction, she surely wasn’t sinking in the boat I’m in…and all the others like me.

When I listen to Americans talk about pro-big business issues and privacy issues and how the government is taking away our rights and how government involvement in health care access will result in rationing, I have no choice but to shake my head at their ignorance…and good fortune. Anyone who’s been in the position I’m in knows the rules of the game, and they’re stacked heavily against the individual. Anyone who’s been lucky enough to be healthy and have employer-sponsored health insurance probably knows nothing of how this industry works or even what is covered by their policies. They probably don’t even understand the terminology contained in them.

The health care access reality faced by many Americans today is a deplorable disgrace. And Ms. Kilcrease, to her credit, seemed to understand it. She took the full brunt of my frustration with the patience of a saint (and I give the credit to her, not Blue Cross and Blue Shield). When I told her that I lost my job six months ago and was wondering how I was going to keep a roof over my head and pay this insurance premium, she promised that she would research my situation and call me tomorrow afternoon if she could find a less-costly policy for me to buy from Blue Cross and Blue Shield. God bless her.

Whether or not this woman will be able to scare anything out of the dark, dank corners that are the health insurance industry remains to be seen. Needless to say, I hope she can, but I’m surely not holding my breath. Or maybe that's exactly what I should do and put an end to this stress. I'm not usually fatalistic, but this situation leaves little room for hope.

My call to Newsviners is not to sympathize with me. It is that I hope those who think that Americans who rail against the health insurance industry, who can’t afford their insurance and can’t qualify for even a cheap, catastrophic policy are lazy losers will find a wake-up call in my story. Because until we unite on this issue, demand sustainable change and actually care about hard-working fellow citizens who contribute to this society we call the United States, this reality will not be corrected. And in the process, tens of thousands of Americans will die needlessly. Maybe you don’t need us, but our families do.

UPDATE: It's been 48 hours since I spoke with Ms. Kilcrease, and she has not returned my call as promised.

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VisionCoast

It's a dark day indeed when Americans have to choose between having access to health care and risking financial ruin or death. But this is where many of us find ourselves. In the United States of America, the greatest country in the world. Or so we say.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
KJR-1578050

Unfortunately financial ruin has been contributed to in the endeavor to keep health insurance coverage as we are both self employed, followed by getting tagged twice with with the social security tax. It's a struggle in this economy to keep the roof up and food on the table.

Now they're talking about penalizing us for not having insurance because a roof and food are more important? Even when had insurance paying the monthly premium, we still had to pay additional out of pocket, as we were always under that deductible where they would start paying 80%.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
VisionCoast

You're right, taxes on the self-employed are a killer unless you're making a ton of money. It's an added risk for anyone who embarks on this journey to independence.

If I understand H.R. 3590 correctly, the mandate to have insurance will help those who can't afford it with more-affordable health exchanges and subsidies. A lot of people think we may be headed for an expansion of Medicare in a system that will include those under age 65. I guess time will tell.

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:52 PM EDT
KJR-1578050

I'm thinking soylent green in the making... :>

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Hahaha... Cannibalism is an authentic health threat in the long-term, so maybe that would make all of us ineligible for health insurance.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:05 PM EDT
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freebirdreaming

Thank you for sharing in an effort to bring fellow citizens to a wakeful state.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:26 PM EDT
VisionCoast

I just wish I could do something more meaningful.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:35 PM EDT
freebirdreaming

there is nothing more meaningful then placing the truth where one can reach it.

  • 5 votes
#2.2 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:28 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Thanks, freebirddreaming. Too bad it can't be enough to make the difference we need.

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:18 AM EDT
freebirdreaming

Too bad it can't be enough to make the difference we need.

not only can it........... it does. just keep telling ............. :)

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
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jbdaad

When I listen to Americans talk about pro-big business issues and privacy issues and how the government is taking away our rights and how government involvement in health care access will result in rationing, I have no choice but to shake my head at their ignorance…and good fortune. Anyone who’s been in the position I’m in knows the rules of the game, and they’re stacked heavily against the individual. Anyone who’s been lucky enough to be healthy and have employer-sponsored health insurance probably knows nothing of how this industry works or even what is covered by their policies. They probably don’t even understand the terminology contained in them.

Hopefully they all will soon...these insurance ties (that allow this rediculous legal thieving) in our Government are no different than what BP has been able to get away with because of their ties to MMS.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:52 PM EDT
VisionCoast

So right. The problem is multifaceted—providers, cost of medical education, liability insurance, medical suppliers, hospitals, labs, insurance industry, predatory lawsuits, lawyers. All of these things factor into the debacle that health care access has become for so many Americans.

I used to hold out hope that the government could at least kick-start a solution, but I no longer do. It's not a partisan issue. The parties' styles of deal-making might be different, but the outcome is always the same.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:08 PM EDT
jbdaad

The parties' styles of deal-making might be different, but the outcome is always the same

Sometimes I think the only difference is the name. Give us a break from one dish of mush to another dish of caca.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:26 PM EDT
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tdk022755

Insurance is for the well. Once you get sick it is another matter. If you are unfortunate enough to be paying privately for your health insurance, pray that you do not get sick because if you do, you will not be able to afford to keep your insurance.

Insurance companies are in the business of MAKING MONEY. They ARE NOT there to help patients. That is not their primary job. They have a vested interest in paying as little as possible so that they can avoid cutting into their end of year profit margin. If you are unfortunate enough to have a serious, ongoing illness, good luck because you will need it.

  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
my-pockets-r-mt

They have a vested interest in paying as little as possible so that they can avoid cutting into their end of year profit margin.

And from here on in that will be the governments job.

Not only will we see premiums go up more and more, to the point everyone will be on govenment entitlement, we will also see our taxes go up more and more and any other fees the govenment can think of to cover their new entitlement.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
VisionCoast

At least the government doesn't answer to shareholders. That's the only good thing I can say about that.

Since it appears that the industry, government and the majority of Americans simply ignore this life-and-death issue, I hope all health insurance premiums skyrocket right through the stratosphere and that they do it quickly. Only then will this subject finally come under scrutiny and have a chance of getting the solutions we need. The longer we drag this out, the more Americans will die.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:40 AM EDT
freebirdreaming

The government indeed, answers to 'shareholders'................ The Fed. The bank.

until we all get that our president will continue to be held captive bythem.

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Quite right, I forgot. The Fed needs to be wiped up and wiped out.

  • 4 votes
#4.4 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
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AlphaDogReporter

The health insurance industry and much of the health care system in this country is proof that America has completely lost it's moral compass.

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:53 AM EDT
keith in DSM

VisionCoast.

There is no way I could pay as much as you pay for health insurance. I don't make that much in a year. In my opinion, the insurance company is doing their best to make you drop this coverage because they want you off their account. I assume they will continue to raise your premiums until you cannot afford it anymore.

Sorry, no good news here, or suggestions.

Best of luck.

P.S. If your health is back to normal, I would drop the SOB's and put the $$$$'s in savings for your next rainy day. It appears to be a matter of staying broke now, or going broke later.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
jbdaad

P.S. If your health is back to normal, I would drop the SOB's and put the $$$$'s in savings for your next rainy day.

Perhaps we should all do that to show them we've had enough .

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT
VisionCoast

keith,

The only reason I can pay the premium is because I've always lived frugally and have squirreled away some money. But this premium—along with my spouse's ($600 a month)—is causing financial hemorrhage of catastrophic proportion. And the alternative is unnerving; one has to be ready to die.

I'm extremely tempted to drop the policy, and if I do, I won't have a chance to qualify for another one until the end of 2013. My family is terrified of my taking that step because if I experience a recurrence of cancer, well, then it's death or bankruptcy. I called my pharmacy this morning to find out the retail prices of the four medications I'm on. The monthly total was $574. But I won't be able to stay on the medications without visits to the two doctors who prescribe them, the cost of which would average out at about $92 a month.

Thank you for your wishes. Much appreciated...and may they go out to all those who are in my situation and even worse.

  • 2 votes
#6.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:43 PM EDT
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VisionCoast

Perhaps we should all do that to show them we've had enough.

I've fantasized about that very thing. It's the one strategy that would correct this mess in a heartbeat: take away profit and watch how fast they work to correct the situation. But I think most people would be terrified to take that action because we all know what it could mean.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
my-pockets-r-mt

We got hit by a double whammy this year. Both of us a month apart had serious health problems, mine required hospitalization. So I can see where your coming from VisionCoast.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:05 PM EDT
VisionCoast

I'm sorry to hear it, my-pockets-r-mt. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. My best to both of you for a good outcome. Keep the faith.

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:10 PM EDT
my-pockets-r-mt

Thanks, but we're doing okay now. Always have faith, we all need a magic wand to keep us healthy.

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:41 PM EDT
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nxw01

I've dealt with BCBS before; they recently changed their plan platforms on 7/1/10 pretty much nationwide, although not in every state. These are essentially the same plans as before, with a few tweaks such as a higher copay for office visits, but they are cheaper. It would be considered a "downgrade" and as such BCBS would consider it a reduction in benefits. BCBS has a pretty steadfast rule that you can always reduce your benefits without underwriting, just not increase them. Despite what you were told, you may want to look into options with other carriers. The best way to do that is to find an independent agent because they can quote with several companies.

Some carriers, like BCBS, will not accept a new applicant (or rewrite existing business) unless you have been cancer-free for the past 10 years. By that, I mean you can't have had any treatment of any kind for that condition, including anti-cancer drugs. However, there are others out there that are less strict. Some carriers only do a 5 yr or 3 yr look-back. But yes, you will need to allow them access to your medical history or complete an application for medical pre-screen. And no, you should never be asked to give blood or get a physical, etc. to apply for health insurance.

I'm not advocating on behalf of any carrier; I just wanted to give you some options rather than waiting for someone at BCBS to call you back. You have my sympathy and I hope everything works out for you!

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Thanks, nxw01, for the info.

Twice now BCBS has told me that they have no reduced-coverage policy to sell me, even one with reduced benefits. I get the distinct impression that they want me off their rolls. I'm too much of a risk to their profit margin.

I've spoken with numerous different independent agents and all have told me they have no major medical carriers who will even review my application past the cancer history. One said that I might qualify once I'm cancer-free for seven years, but that was two years ago. In the wake of H.R. 3590, the parameters might be entirely different...and I'm still checking, though less and less because this is very defeating.

My spouse was required to submit to a blood test and EKG before United Health Care would accept the application, and I was told the same. I don't doubt that any refuse to submit would end the process on the spot. Do you know something we don't?

Thanks again. All information is welcome.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
nxw01

My contact at BCBS informed me that they are rolling out the new platform nationwide, but that it may not have been rolled out yet in every state. I don't know which state you are in; I am in Ohio and it has rolled out in OH, IN and KY. I'd have to know which state you are in to see if it shows rolled out there.

If your husband had a heart condition and hadn't yet had a stress test for that year they might ask that he undergo one to evaluate his current condition. Typically they do not ask for it; only if there is a medical cause. UHC is known to ask for additional tests; you may want to try Humana or Aetna if they are available in your area. Humana you can call direct and they will tell you over the phone if you qualify.

If none of that helps, you may want to check out the HIPAA policies available in your state. They might actually be less expensive. Or, do what I would do - work enough hours to be considered a full-time employee at a place that offers benefits. Not nice, maybe but then you wouldn't be footing the entire cost of the premium. Here in OH that would mean you'd only have to work 25hrs/week.

  • 3 votes
#8.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:25 PM EDT
VisionCoast

I'm in Florida.

My husband, unbelievably, has no preexisting conditions. He's healthy as a horse.

I'll be checking with our agent to see what she has for him through Aetna and Humana.

Funny you mention Humana. I kept getting direct-mail pieces from them trying to sell me a policy. I got so tired of receiving them that I finally called them. I listened to the sales pitch for about a minute, then interrupted and told the salesperson I had cancer in 2003. That was the end of the phone call...and the direct-mail pieces.

  • 5 votes
#8.3 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:44 PM EDT
nxw01

Florida... yikes. You live in one of the worst states for insurance - health or otherwise! So many carriers have pulled out of the market there, it's ridiculous. If Humana and Aetna won't help out, ask your agent about the HIPAA plans. Every state is required to have one per the health care reform act.

But I would keep trying with BCBS. If you have an agent, have them work with the carrier instead of you calling; sometimes agents have more sway with them because they are representing a block of business. BCBS has some Blue Select plans that might help you. They have higher deductibles but a 100% coinsurance level so once you've met the deductible, you do not have to meet an additional out of pocket amount. They are priced cheaper than the plan with lower coinsurance amounts, oddly enough and since they are higher deuctible, they qualify as a downgrade.

The sales rep from Humana probably didn't know what to do. They hire people for their call centers that really know nothing about insurance. Humana has a direct line for quoting (866-672-9165) and they would know better how to help. But you should know that they sometimes rider conditions, meaning that they will cover you for everything BUT that condition, or any medication/treatment related to it.

Good luck!! I really hope everything works out for you - let me know. :)

  • 2 votes
#8.4 - Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:59 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Thanks, nxw01 for the reply.

Yes, Florida is a bad state for all insurances, particularly the big three—health, auto and homeowners. We tried to leave this godforsaken state in ’06, but the house wouldn't sell. We had the right idea then, but I guess that futile effort was a precursor of things to come.

I'll call my husband's agent and see if she has any luck with BCBS. It was actually humorous to listen to the Humana salesperson stutter and stumble when I mentioned the big C, but only because I knew what would happen.

Thanks very much for your good wishes.

P.S. I'll be updating this piece to let readers know that Ms. Kilcrease, the BCBS supervisor I spoke with, has not called back as she said she would. Now there's a big surprise.

  • 2 votes
#8.5 - Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:12 PM EDT
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Elaine-1503791

VisionCoast, man....I'm almost speechless at your situation, and just want to say you're so true and honest and have done everything you can to do the right thing. I will honestly remember you when I pray. I've been thinking about writing an article myself about health care. It would be so long it would go on for pages, but in truth I hardly know where to begin to express how I feel. And I can tell you it wouldn't be as coherent and descriptive and well written as yours.

I didn't vote for President Obama but I honestly wished him well and I thought, well, the Republicans had their chance to pull these damn insurance companies into line and they didn't. So now it's somebody elses turn. Somebody please do something. I'm all for it President Obama.

This is not a slight on the president but I have no earthly idea where we stand anymore on health care and/or health insurance and the screw job on every citizen seems the same.....for now anyway.

My boyfriend is dying. He is poor as the church mouse and can do nothing to help himself. Before the election of 08 he got regular MS treatment at the hospital and he saw doctors at the welfare clinic. I call it welfare clinic for lack of knowing what else to call where they send people to see doctors who can't pay. He has congestive heart failure, MS and emphaesema and will not live much longer. But since 08 he's been jacked around, lied to, turned away and he's been holding on waiting for the new health care to kick in. He finally got his letter Memorial Day weekend to say if he can hold on until 2014, he'll be in the system and can get help. He won't make it and they know it and they really do wish he would just die. I know it because I've seen him beg for help every day since 08 when he got knocked off everything.

I'm not blaming the president, I don't know who to blame. I'm just so damn mad that this country is so antagonistic to it's people. People who've paid in all their lives. If you don't have money, you are just screwed. My boyfriend got doubly screwed when he worked on an oil rig in the gulf in 1986 that got bumped by a supply ship causing the rig to shift and knocking everyone off. Some died, some lost limbs and some were maimed like my boyfriend. The company visited him in the hospital when he was doped up from his back being broken in 8 different places and had him sign a release of liability and assured him he'd always have a job with them and he could do it from a wheelchair. He got out of the hospital and the company had closed. Of course, they re-opened as a different company and just carried on, but they knew how to get rid of the collateral damage....guided by their insurance company.

He was awarded federal disability by a judge that knew he'd been totally screwed and has tried to survive on his $600 a month ever since. My heart is broken, he can't get help, they want him to die and he will.

I found out yesterday my company is dropping our health insurance on July the 1st, but if I want to pick it up myself it will only be around $750 a month. On my $354 a week, living on my own and trying to survive I can't afford it and so now I'm not covered either. Great.

I have no idea what it all means. I am sad and sorry as can be for your situation, for my boyfriends situation, and for every person like you both and I think they are countless numbers of people, probably millions and I just don't know what to do or say.

I so hate insurance companies and big lying pharma, and big expensive hospitals, and wealthy doctors and I know that isn't right but I also know they absolutely do not care at all about you, my boyfriend, all sick poor people, me, or anyone who can't pay or who are sick....period.

I hate them, hate them, hate them. I know somebody is going to write and rip me a new one about all the care of doctors and nurses and blah blah. Save it. It doesn't apply in my life. It doesn't apply in my boyfriends life.....and I bet both of your letters are wrong. You'll pay the wrong premium and guess what.....you're screwed too.....and dropped. Something went wrong, not their fault. So sorry.

Thank you for letting me vent....and I'm sorry too. I've never written any of this down and I hate hating and I hate feeling this way.

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:35 PM EDT
VisionCoast

Elaine, my deepest sympathy goes out to your boyfriend and you. What incredibly raw deals and so very undeserved.

I understand your bitterness. It's very hard when you're on the receiving end of this kind of treatment to feel much else...except maybe depression about what the future may bring. I can't encourage you strongly enough to write your story so that others can know what's happening. When people hear about 35 million uninsured, it's an abstract, but when people's names (even Newsvine names) and the details are revealed, it makes it more real.

As you note, many Americans who have coverage through their jobs may find themselves in the same position in which you have been thrown. This distinct probability seems to fall on too many deaf ears, and it will only be when this comes home to roost that the deafness will suddenly and sharply disappear. Maybe if you and I and others refuse to let this issue go unheard it will speed up the demand for the real reform we so desperately need.

Thank you for your kind thoughts and know that you and your boyfriend will surely be in mine. Peace to you.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:45 PM EDT
freebirdreaming

get it out elaine.............. its as harmful as poison to let it stew in you.:)

from an uninsured woman.

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:47 PM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Thanks freebirddreaming....you are so right. God help us all.

  • 2 votes
#9.3 - Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:09 PM EDT
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